tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37259568.post3974666640860062215..comments2022-10-31T21:05:21.365-07:00Comments on Luke A. Holzmann: The Myth of Moral RelativismLuke Holzmannhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07799632321310461828noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37259568.post-10096803660356637232008-11-14T15:30:00.000-08:002008-11-14T15:30:00.000-08:00Heather,My point is not that people aren't relativ...Heather,<BR/><BR/>My point is not that people aren't relativistic in their thinking... but rather that no one is truly <I>completely</I> relativistic. In other words, everyone has a context for their morality, even if it shifts around.<BR/><BR/>And my point with Isaiah is that while our context (God) does not change, He does things that in other contexts would be very wrong--thereby appearing to be relativistic.<BR/><BR/>What you say about Romans sounds good to me <smile>.<BR/><BR/>And I too struggle to be succinct in my thoughts <smile>.<BR/><BR/>Thanks so much for stopping by and hashing this out more with me!<BR/><BR/> ~LukeLuke Holzmannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07799632321310461828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-37259568.post-90475057639194848602008-11-03T23:36:00.000-08:002008-11-03T23:36:00.000-08:00Luke, Thanks for the link...Have you considered th...Luke, <BR/><BR/>Thanks for the link...<BR/><BR/><BR/>Have you considered that perhaps both perspectives are valid? There is a possibility that your "contextualism" and "moral relativism" actually co-exist. <BR/><BR/> Jesus is the essence of Truth. Once He is out of the picture, "truth" can be defined in any way a person desires, because, as you said there is no grounding filter with which to sift information. So, in a sense, those who reject Christ do reject truth and are therefore opposed to it(Him). A person's understanding of truth is then subject to individual interpretation, which can change depending on the situation or emotional mood or disclosure of facts or any number of other variables. Truth then becomes relative to the perceived context and resulting morals have no solid foundation on which to stand. <BR/><BR/>I believe moral relativity is what Romans 1 is addressing-- If we ignore, reject, rebel against God (TRUTH) then He will let us stew in our own ignorant juices. <BR/><BR/>Concerning Isaiah...I think I see what you meant about context, but not sure I follow the logic because there is a difference between God making (or changing) the rules and man attempting to do the same. God is the One who determines whether something is right, so the killing of babies, women, children, etc at the hand of enemies as a judgment on a nation (or as a matter of persecution of believers, for that matter) is His prerogative. As the One who created everything, He has that right. No created being has the authority to autonomously make such decisions. There appears to be Biblical instances when someone did something wrong (lied, murdered) and it was seen as a good thing in its overall context. But only because it was done in obedience to God's direction in a specific instance. <BR/>Maybe I misunderstand what you are trying to say.<BR/><BR/>I appreciate being able to read your perspective. I think God shows me more when I am willing to listen to other people. Perhaps I shall dig around your site for more things to consider.<BR/><BR/>I need to figure out how to be more concise with my thoughts...<BR/><BR/>HeatherCraig and Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11962442989291080899noreply@blogger.com